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  My Elderette is returning today to CONDUCT another conversation...

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. watchtower
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  she has had 42 years of training and indoctrination.

  i'm feeling sort of nervous, but also looking forward to it.

  this will be our second scheduled session together, and we never did agree on a topic.. i'm assuming she will come with an agenda and another prepared presentation.

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  My Elderette is returning today to CONDUCT another conversation...

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  she has had 42 years of training and indoctrination.

  i'm feeling sort of nervous, but also looking forward to it.

  this will be our second scheduled session together, and we never did agree on a topic.. i'm assuming she will come with an agenda and another prepared presentation.

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  We are seeing JW history in the making

  by suavojr in

  1. watchtower
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  with all the current changes and downsizing, the 1914 "anchor date" appears to be drifting out to sea.

  yes, i know the gb is putting all of their chips on 1914 but if you stop and think about it for a moment.. we are seeing jw history in the making for the next jw generation of 2114.. first they teach a date as significant.second, when it becomes obsolete, they come up with a convoluted explanation of how it really was significant, just not in the way "some believers" once taught.third, it becomes a historical footnote, as in: "bible students at one time thought... but now we see... evidently... .

  the next generation of jws (100 years from today) will be talking about 2014 as the year of great expectation, and how close the end is in 2114. yes, when jesus spoke about this generation evidently he was talking in a symbolic way, and he was truly referring to the generation class.. .

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  Island Man

  I think the trend we're seeing in the world today is a shift to less religiosity as more critical information and critical thinking becomes available to people worldwide through the internet. More and more people are becoming skeptical thinkers and dubious of religion in general - and especially controlling groups like JWs with their very dubious past. What this will mean is that JWs would find it increasingly difficult to win new outside converts as time progresses. However, persons born and brought up in strict JW households would be more immune to the threat of critical information by virtue of Watchtower indoctrination urging members to shun independent thinking and worldly philosophies.

  So to combat declining conversions I predict that the Watchtower will in future resort to this two-pronged approach:

  1. Watchtower will further try to isolate JWs from the thinking world by perhaps encouraging homeschooling and discouraging parents from sending their children to "worldly" schools. (Who knows, Watchtower might even publish text books and a syllabus for parents to use in homeschooling the their kids with Watcthower-approved information) That way JW youth are less likely to be exposed to information from subjects like history and science that will get JWs questioning. There will also be increasing anti-internet propaganda warning JWs against visiting sites that deal with science, philosophy, logic and anything else that could pose a threat to belief in God and Watchtower teachings. In this way they will hope to insulate JWs from the trend to increasing skepticism through enlightenment and thus preserve their current membership and maintain inside conversions of those born in.

  2. To make up for the declining outside conversions, they will try to increase the inside conversions by raising the JW birth rate. Watchtower will start encouraging sisters to get married and take up the noble and scriptural role of child-rearing. They will tell sisters that they can count the time spent teaching the truth to their children. They will say that raising children in the truth is in fact an important christian role on par with the house to house ministry and that this is in fact the scripturally outlined role for sisters in the congregation rather than teaching outsiders in the house to house ministry where they sometimes find themselves having to teach men - something the scriptures discourage. To support this new light they will use the following scripture:

  (1 Timothy 2:12, 15) . . .I do not permit a woman to teach, or to exercise authority over a man, but to be in silence. . . . 15 However, she will be kept safe through childbearing, provided they continue in faith and love and sanctification along with soundness of mind.
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  A serving elder's take on the new "tithing" arrangement

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
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  the gb can kiss my ass.. i'm writing "0" on the little slip of paper they pass out.. hey here's a thought:.

  you know that "widow's might" stuff they're always talking about?

  well i'm pretty dang sure that the lady was giving from the heart not because she filled out some dumba$$ piece of paper pledging two small coins several months previous!.

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  Island Man

  Here's an idea: What if you got 10 pieces of paper and wrote a different but substantial sum on each one of them - 100.00, 75.00, 150.00, 50.00, etc - making sure to use a different handwriting on each one and with different pens? That would really inflate the figure and start a ruckus when the cong. can't match it in their monthly donations. LOL.
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  BITING THE FOOD but getting caught on the HIDDEN HOOK

  by Terry in

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  what happened to all of us?.

  we got shit out the ass end of a kingdom hall wondering what the hell happened to us.. we started our journey as believer in the bible and got turned into a steaming pile of apostate crap.. how did it happen?.

  we smelled delicious "food" and bit, chewed and swallowed .

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  Island Man

  " So when Ancient Hebrew is translated over and over to the progressive Hebrew Forms, then it is Translayes to Greek & Then English it is destined to be flawed."

  What does it say about the wisdom of a God who inspires the writing of an inerrant book in a few ancient languages only to have the innerrancy of that book necessarily undermined due to the need to translate the book over and over again into different languages? More than that, what's the use of inerrant book if its contents are open to different interpretations? What's the use of an inerrant book if inerrant comprehension of it is impossible? For that matter, is a book really inerrant if it is ambiguous and difficult to understand? Is that the best that an all-wise God can do? Not very wise if you ask me.
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  "...A God's Voice, And Not A Man's!" (Acts 12:22; 2 Thess. 2:3, 4) ... That Day Is Here!

  by bjc2read in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  question: how are members of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses themselves, actually viewed by jehovah's witnesses today?.

  well, the following related experience may help answer that provocative question, giving us a glimpse of what the possible future days will bring us.

  yes, the answer to that question may even be quite shocking to us, ... with simply terrible, disastrous results!!!

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  Island Man

  " Let's call them "HYDRA." They have seven heads . . ."

  Hmmm . . . . Do you think it's possible that the writer of Revelation could have been inspired by the idea of the Hydra when he wrote about a beast with 7 heads?
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  "...A God's Voice, And Not A Man's!" (Acts 12:22; 2 Thess. 2:3, 4) ... That Day Is Here!

  by bjc2read in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  question: how are members of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses themselves, actually viewed by jehovah's witnesses today?.

  well, the following related experience may help answer that provocative question, giving us a glimpse of what the possible future days will bring us.

  yes, the answer to that question may even be quite shocking to us, ... with simply terrible, disastrous results!!!

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  Island Man

  (now SevenoPope with the recent demise of one Pope).

  That would be septapope
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  BITING THE FOOD but getting caught on the HIDDEN HOOK

  by Terry in

  1. social
  2. current

  what happened to all of us?.

  we got shit out the ass end of a kingdom hall wondering what the hell happened to us.. we started our journey as believer in the bible and got turned into a steaming pile of apostate crap.. how did it happen?.

  we smelled delicious "food" and bit, chewed and swallowed .

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  Island Man

  I have looked at the Book and have determined that it is indeed a hook.
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  The WT and GB compared to Catholics before the reformation.

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just read this article about luther and i'll quote a paragraph.

  it's interesting how you can substitute a few words and see it identical to the wt.

  now let me substitute pope and catholic church for governing body and watchtower...... .

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  Island Man

  https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20140429063850AAtNDal
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  Meeting after meeeting

  by molybdenum in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just got information that there is going to be a short 10 min meeting.

  with elders and ms after the first meeting of the week during the co visit.. this is in addition to the usual elders/ms meeting.. it might just be for my congregation, but is this something new?.

  i wonder why.. .

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  Island Man

  So what was the 10 minute meeting about?